tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post1153326019225413356..comments2023-09-05T09:06:09.136-05:00Comments on Atop the Fourth Wall: March of the Titans: The Titans #1-25Lewis Lovhaughttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06724769374732321363noreply@blogger.comBlogger85125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-72314450076164606972015-03-15T01:09:52.771-05:002015-03-15T01:09:52.771-05:00Since Donna's kid got killed off long before C...Since Donna's kid got killed off long before Cry for Justice, I'd say CFJ is not the (only) reason this future would never come to be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-45040723912955935862013-04-09T02:45:51.642-05:002013-04-09T02:45:51.642-05:00That mandate that stated they couldn't reveal ...That mandate that stated they couldn't reveal that the Future Titans were the kids of the current ones is just weird.<br /><br />You ever get the feeling that some editors want to pretend that characters never have sex and/or become pregnant? It makes me think of how often condoms aren't mentioned in TV programs (the ones that aren't on pay cable channels) because it's believed that acknowledging the characters are having sex by talking about them causes more viewers to have sex/think about sex then just heavily implying it.<br /><br />Which is stupid but I don't make the rules for US TV.<br /><br />The more and more I learn about Leann, the more I want to smack the writers and editors of Cry for Justice in the face with a frying pan... that's on fire.<br /><br />And I didn't mind the few weeks that were less than your usual angry self. I loved this trip down memory lane and learning more about the team that influenced one of my favorite cartoons.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09139941818637196445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-12309270377249414542013-04-03T13:53:49.243-05:002013-04-03T13:53:49.243-05:00McCool: I've listened to Gary Moore's Over...McCool: I've listened to Gary Moore's <i>Over The Hills and Far Away</i> now, and it rocks!<br />Linkara, next time you feel like using the song for the blood-stirring, exciting adventure you used it for here, consider the original. (Much as I love Nightwish.)<br /><br />~ MikAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-11438358344161026702013-04-02T04:39:08.499-05:002013-04-02T04:39:08.499-05:00Enigma 2099 ~
I'm not doing my research again,...Enigma 2099 ~<br />I'm not doing my research again, so I really, really don't know, but is it possible you're getting confused with Mark Bagley? (I know he's done Spider-Man issues, is all. I don't know if Mark Buckingham has or not.)<br /><br />~ MikAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-82685569103200868752013-03-29T21:21:37.144-05:002013-03-29T21:21:37.144-05:00Mark Buckingham? The same Mark Buckingham that wor...Mark Buckingham? The same Mark Buckingham that worked on some issues of Spider-man?<br /><br />Not a big fan.Enigma_2099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-30758627944425933132013-03-27T11:03:01.131-05:002013-03-27T11:03:01.131-05:00Now you see that *gestures to first issues of seri...Now you see that *gestures to first issues of series* why can't more comic series I come across have artwork like that, I absolutely love it.<br /><br />Note: I'm sure there are other comics out there that have the same style but considering I live in a small northern town in England the chances of me finding a comic book shop are...well...zero. Shame really, I know there are online distributors, heck the vast sum of comics I get are from DC's iPhone app which no doubt gives me no excuse but online is a big place, much easier to find books on shelves than trawling through 50 pages of a site ^^;; but that's just me.Michael Clayton-Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17586819663469785989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-66714981402370956742013-03-25T04:36:11.826-05:002013-03-25T04:36:11.826-05:00McCool - entirely my bad, that's what I get fo...McCool - entirely my bad, that's what I get for not doing my research. :-/<br /><br />I've heard the original was a traditional song, thought it was true. (TBH, I've only heard the Nightwish version, though.)<br /><br />~ MikLe Messorhttp://le-messor.livejournal.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-66674686539047642492013-03-24T09:04:34.921-05:002013-03-24T09:04:34.921-05:00Alex Stritar: Well, there is a fully reasonable (o...Alex Stritar: Well, there is a fully reasonable (out of book) explanation for this decision: The first issue was released in 1999 and DC editorial was probably writing Batman as an urban legend to distance themselves from Joel Schumacher's Batman & Robin.Volvagianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-76892848290832057782013-03-24T06:59:08.573-05:002013-03-24T06:59:08.573-05:00le-messor - Gary Moore has been dead for two years...le-messor - Gary Moore has been dead for two years. And his Over the Hills and far away was an original song, it has nothing to do with the folk song. <br />Sorry for silly spam linkara :p as a belfast native I have to defend Gary Moore. <br />Also I have no idea what epsilon did but you didnt sound too impressed. I always though he seemed pretty cool. McCoolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-78561063107434973612013-03-23T16:59:07.797-05:002013-03-23T16:59:07.797-05:00You know what the big problem with Batman being a ...You know what the big problem with Batman being a myth in the shared universe? Why is Batman so unbelievable when Superman, Wonder Woman, The Flash and Green Lantern are common knowledge? Even with most people not knowing he's just a normal guy in a bat costume, he still isn't that unbelievable. Shadowy figure of the night beating up wrongdoers? That's not likely in this world where aliens invade every other Wendsday and guys with green power rings do battle with guys with living tatoos in the street on weekends.Alex Stritarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-25330261544998257502013-03-22T19:13:28.280-05:002013-03-22T19:13:28.280-05:00Your talking about how important expressions are r...Your talking about how important expressions are reminds me of a recent run from <i>Uncanny X-Men</i>, where the characters were grinning constantly. I don't know what they were going for, but it just looked creepy.<br />The twist? A change of artist didn't solve it. (The second was Greg Land.)<br /><br />You also touch on another trope that's been bugging me in more recent comics (though I think we're getting away from it) - that they constantly make the non-powered characters more powerful than the powered characters. So, Batman can take out Galactus. Deathstroke (technically powered, but only technically) can take out Dark Phoenix. Puck can defeat Darkseid. etc...<br />When the creative teams kept doing that, it was like they didn't know why I was reading comics about people with powers.<br /><br />McCool... Gary Moore's doing all right, I think. I mean, Thin Lizzy's getting back together an' all. Also, <i>Over The Hills And Far Away</i> (no relation to the Led Zeppelin song) was a traditional ballad before he covered it.<br /><br />~ MikAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-30782967406582851812013-03-21T18:00:03.182-05:002013-03-21T18:00:03.182-05:00"Shanethefilmmaker said...
They could attrib..."Shanethefilmmaker said...<br /><br />They could attribute his appearance on the news to be no different than seeing UFO sightings or Bigfoot. Some say they see him, others would say it's just a guy dressed in a Batman costume that was passing through, while the rest would think that the news guys digitally added him in with after effects to boost their ratings."<br /><br />So Gotham City is full of conspiracy theorists then; to them the Batman's not real, just like the Moon Landing, or Obama being born in the US?<br /><br />Huh, criminals really are a supersticious and cowardly lotOzalinehttp://outofthefridge.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-43847321790286005022013-03-21T08:19:32.830-05:002013-03-21T08:19:32.830-05:00"My big problem with the idea that Batman is ..."My big problem with the idea that Batman is thought of as a myth ties into the shared universe thing... One day he'll be part of a high profile Justice League operation and probably be all over the national news and two days later some Gothamites will be debating if he even exists. Perhaps Gotham doesn't get CNN cause No Man's Land or something."<br />They could attribute his appearance on the news to be no different than seeing UFO sightings or Bigfoot. Some say they see him, others would say it's just a guy dressed in a Batman costume that was passing through, while the rest would think that the news guys digitally added him in with after effects to boost their ratings.Shanethefilmmakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11029054564992540263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-47632011869547057792013-03-21T05:05:30.798-05:002013-03-21T05:05:30.798-05:00I have to be honest... I'm still not sure why...I have to be honest... I'm still not sure why you liked these comics so much. I mean, sure, there's Lian. She's cute and all, and it's nice to see a father who's responsible enough to take care of a little girl all by himself. Plus, as you said, there are lots of character bits.<br /><br />However, the main reason I got out of comics during the dark age was that the heroes just weren't being that heroic anymore. Characters rarely had had fun with their pals anymore, teams rarely worked well together, even by the end, and characters were always bickering (and not just good-natured ribbing, like the Fantastic Four,) about their personal issues, as if they simply lacked the maturity to put their own feelings aside and get the job done.<br /><br />Also, they frequently did bad things and suffered little consequences for them, like, say, human cloning and first degree murder...<br /><br />As many ups as this book has, I'm afraid that for me, the downs are just outlined so much more clearly. I love stories about different personality-types having character development, and I also love stories about characters being heroes, but if these issues had both, you didn't really highlight the latter.<br /><br />That said, the character bits and heroism -can- be done together, and this has been done numerous times. "JLA: Year One," for example, was all that and a bunch of cool, bizarre plot-lines about elementals invading Earth and people losing bodyparts due to a raygun. Comics that focus more on just the bickering are really what made me the cautious, jaded comic fan I now am. I guess I can appreciate what you liked about them, but I agree with you about the issues having problems.Tantum Ergo 2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05066362306890352470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-20568093219911321252013-03-21T04:51:44.920-05:002013-03-21T04:51:44.920-05:00Interesting retrospective on first 25 issues on th...Interesting retrospective on first 25 issues on the Titans. Can't wait for the second half (and maybe the obligatory fake previously on recap).<br /><br />Man, Donna Troy/Troia sure has one of the most confusing backstories, not helped by how she was originally created as a younger version of Wonder Woman. In light of the New 52, especially titles like Red Hood and the Outlaws, I have a feeling that Donna will be re-introduced as a teenage punk who turns out to be another of Zeus's illegitimate children.Mingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-58578815262993854432013-03-20T21:44:14.522-05:002013-03-20T21:44:14.522-05:00My big problem with the idea that Batman is though...My big problem with the idea that Batman is thought of as a myth ties into the shared universe thing... One day he'll be part of a high profile Justice League operation and probably be all over the national news and two days later some Gothamites will be debating if he even exists. Perhaps Gotham doesn't get CNN cause No Man's Land or something.Ozalinehttp://outofthefridge.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-54681388804822441922013-03-20T21:39:50.616-05:002013-03-20T21:39:50.616-05:00I'm a little late getting to this, but I'm...I'm a little late getting to this, but I'm really enjoying this retrospect on the Titans. I got hooked on the team during the Brother Blood/Corrupted Raven storyline - back when Jason Todd was hanging around as Robin but wasn't really a Titan because he didn't want to get Batman angry. <br /><br />I do want to mention that Donna Troy is one of my favorite DC characters, and I'm pissed that Dan DiDio has put her on the list of characters we should never see again (along with Wally West, Cassandra Cain, and Stephanie Brown), which is why I can understand why you'll be pretty vocal during next week's review. Belive me when I say your rage will be shared when we get to a certain point.David 2https://www.blogger.com/profile/12346835717361261194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-10654506615140103542013-03-20T18:19:42.124-05:002013-03-20T18:19:42.124-05:00Quick's costume matches her personality. The ...Quick's costume matches her personality. The Red and Yellow are a tribute to her own father which is heartwarming, as well as Wally West, since it was he who recommended her. Goggles on a costume often are an equivalent to glasses. In most fictionalized mediums that would state that she is extremely intelligent and she'd have to be in order to master the formula for speed force her father frequently uses. The Jacket represents the Era she was in the 90s without it being to extreme. Unlike what anonymous said it is useful tactically. Many superheroes rather than lugging heavy armor around often rely on their speed and reflexes to protect themselves from stuff that armor would normally nullify. Jesse prefers to wear light clothes so she can maneuver faster.Shanethefilmmakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11029054564992540263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-1901092093637969112013-03-20T00:06:50.517-05:002013-03-20T00:06:50.517-05:00I am less than thrilled with almost every costume ...I am less than thrilled with almost every costume Jesse's had, precisely because no one will give her a pair of pants. She finally had to steal a costume designed in the 1940s to get some. I would have more patience with the argument that it's sensible for runners if <i>any</i> of DC's male speedsters wore shorts. When Jesse at one point takes up a costume that's a copy of her speedster father's except it has no pants and a lower neckline, that's pretty blatant; Jesse is a female character, and she will show off her legs, because that's what female characters do.<br /><br />All of that said, the costume she's wearing here is not particularly bad by comics standards, low bar though that is to clear. And I've always liked the headpiece with the visor.Greenygalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-20399347761106149392013-03-19T19:54:42.789-05:002013-03-19T19:54:42.789-05:00I will say that last comment (as of this one) by A...I will say that last comment (as of this one) by Anonymous seems to be rather vindictive and assumes the worst.<br /><br />Personally I will say this. When I see women in costumes I prefer them to be practical, to cover parts of the body that general society demands be covered and to realistically help (or at least not hinder) them in action. With that said you can make arguments for and against Quick's costume.<br /><br />As you said, it does show a good deal of her arms, legs and appears to be tight around her butt. This may have been deliberate for fan service. However by the same token that is not necessarily sexist nor useless. If her powers revolve around speed then she, like most male and female athletes (especially runners) would want to keep her legs bare and have a fairly tight pair of shorts to prevent her clothing from interfering from her running. Admittedly that might not be a great concern to a girl who runs at super speeds that might be able to damage the planet if she goes too fast, but that is the reality for athletes and may have been the contributing factor when her costume was designed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-66295659118323797312013-03-19T18:54:17.818-05:002013-03-19T18:54:17.818-05:00"Wow, I'm stunned by your defense of Jess..."Wow, I'm stunned by your defense of Jesse Quick's "costume." It's tactically purposeless, over designed, and would never be worn by a real combatant. With its stockings, bare arms and legs, and bare butt, it is forced onto the character to appeal to pornography addicts. You should be ashamed to call yourself a "feminist." What you are is a white, het, cis that can never understand the pain of those that have been Otherized, so you become an apologist and hide behind your privilege."<br /><br />Or, you know, I just like it aesthetically and didn't get into the feminist aspects of costume design in the series. Plus, since feminists hold different viewpoints about different things, costume design for superheroines being one of them, please don't presume to act as all-knowing judge and jury of what costumes are feminist and what aren't.Lewis Lovhaughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06724769374732321363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-30893510970112568952013-03-19T18:08:26.985-05:002013-03-19T18:08:26.985-05:00wait if deathstroke wife become inmortal for a blo...wait if deathstroke wife become inmortal for a blood transfusion and hers blood its 0 thats mean that the blood that she recive should be type 0 because in any other way she will reject it.renfidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10204717064990586986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-9062826400264780132013-03-19T17:26:33.267-05:002013-03-19T17:26:33.267-05:00Wow, I'm stunned by your defense of Jesse Quic...Wow, I'm stunned by your defense of Jesse Quick's "costume." It's tactically purposeless, over designed, and would never be worn by a real combatant. With its stockings, bare arms and legs, and bare butt, it is forced onto the character to appeal to pornography addicts. You should be ashamed to call yourself a "feminist." What you are is a white, het, cis that can never understand the pain of those that have been Otherized, so you become an apologist and hide behind your privilege.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-63407379568146952122013-03-19T16:28:34.729-05:002013-03-19T16:28:34.729-05:00Awkward fact: March of the Titans is apparently th...Awkward fact: March of the Titans is apparently the title of a white supremacist book and website.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-71536195274292976392013-03-19T15:44:04.043-05:002013-03-19T15:44:04.043-05:00So Kingdom Come is a big screw you to Rob Liefeld ...So Kingdom Come is a big screw you to Rob Liefeld characters?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com