tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post2312908124352611723..comments2023-09-05T09:06:09.136-05:00Comments on Atop the Fourth Wall: Journey Into Mystery #83Lewis Lovhaughttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06724769374732321363noreply@blogger.comBlogger75125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-22778543236170512832013-12-02T03:10:09.878-06:002013-12-02T03:10:09.878-06:00Am I the only one who thinks the Stone Men look a ...Am I the only one who thinks the Stone Men look a lot like the Thing? (Of the Fantastic Four, of course. Not John Carpenter's. Or the Addams's.)<br /><br />Interesting that they chose a dragon hologram to fight the modern jets, when it was recently revealed on <i>Agents Of SHIELD</i> that the Dragonslayer was Asgardian.<br /><br />I've read a story that they didn't know the name of Mjolnir at the time - they even said it was named 'Uru', but when they found out the hammer had a name, they decided that uru was the metal it was made from.<br /><br />btw:<br />Monday - the Moon<br />Tuesday - Twyr (I think; Celtic war god)<br />Wednesday - Odin<br />Thursday - Thor<br />Friday - Freya<br />Saturday - Saturn<br />Sunday - I don't know.<br /><br />~ MikLe Messorhttp://le-messor.livejournal.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-48240900468194929352013-11-30T11:27:38.686-06:002013-11-30T11:27:38.686-06:00Curses, Linkara! ...one more for the Missed Opport...Curses, Linkara! ...one more for the Missed Opportunities pile, then:<br /><br />"They'll never be able to get pass this cardboard cutout of a boulder!/"It's no use, it's made of solid cardboard!"DMasternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-28515793310982874612013-11-29T20:24:49.992-06:002013-11-29T20:24:49.992-06:00@N.
I think more important than the word choice ...@N. <br /><br />I think more important than the word choice on the hammer is that comic writers have shown women as being able to wield it. Wonder Woman in the Marvel Vs DC war, and Rogue in one particular What If come to mind. <br /><br /><br />Ozalinehttp://outofthefridge.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-48718653638845140512013-11-29T03:45:40.908-06:002013-11-29T03:45:40.908-06:00Great episode for this. It's actually surpris...Great episode for this. It's actually surprisingly good.<br /><br />Can't wait for the Xmas reviews . . . and of course next year's Secret Origins Month. I want to see Robin, Dr. Strange, and of course The Avengers!Mingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-83896117505549490462013-11-26T21:34:44.040-06:002013-11-26T21:34:44.040-06:00A Few TidBits.
No one really answered the gravity...A Few TidBits.<br /><br />No one really answered the gravity question. The original source of Superman's powers was that he came from a world with stronger gravity. This was actually JOHN CARTER OF MARS' origin in reverse. So, based on Sci-Fi logic, a human going to another world with even less gravity than ours, would have<br />super-powers on Planet Wow!<br /><br />And yes, if somebody found "The Stick", then they would see it transformed into Mjolnir--BUT ONLY IF THEY WERE WORTHY! To somebody like The Kingpin, it would probably remain a stick. Someone just recently did a great mini-series at Marvel where Thor was running Asgard while Odin was away; he did such a lousy job, he LOST the ability to pick up Mjolnir because by Odin's in-junction, Thor was no longer "worthy". It might have been called THOR:ASGARD but I can't remember.<br /><br />The whole business about finding a magic stick that turned into Mjolnir and Blake into Thor was reminiscent of Jack Kirby and Stan's original version of Spider-Man one that was influenced by both Captain Marvel and more importantly, The Fly--the main reason why that version of Spidey was scrapped. This DEFINITELY points to Kirby's involvement in the plot.<br /><br />Finally, it was later revealed that Thor was the real personality and Donald Blake was the phony.<br />They touched on this in the first THOR movie but in order to punish Thor for his arrogance, Odin stripped him of his immortality and left him stranded on Earth.<br />He implanted the desire to study medicine into the human Thor so that he would have sympathy for those weaker than himself. Hmmm, perhaps this would be great for SECRET ORIGINS MONTH: RETCON EDITION!<br />-LEADER DESSLOK-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-20597237635525618092013-11-26T19:00:32.137-06:002013-11-26T19:00:32.137-06:00@N: I spoke to an actual practicing Norse Pagan, w...@N: I spoke to an actual practicing Norse Pagan, who said that since the point was sex positivity, there is nothing offensive about it to followers of Freya.<br /><br />And then she added that it is not the place of social justice warriors to speak for a goddess unless you happen to be one of her priests/priestesses.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07292483486157118468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-40179332991471706082013-11-26T18:37:07.493-06:002013-11-26T18:37:07.493-06:00There's nothing sinful about good humor. Some...There's nothing sinful about good humor. Some people might -dislike- it, but it's not -wrong.-<br /><br />Actually a few jokes came to me as I watched...<br /><br />"Can't get away from the lumbering, slow thing!" -MST3K; the Phantom Planet-<br /><br />If he's complaining about running out of air -now,- he'd better cancel his trip to Airlandia.<br /><br />Weirder than the silver age? It can be weirder than a variation of Kryptonite that turns Superman into a gorilla? A ray-gun that makes you gain weight? An alien death plant that looks like a piece of crystal, and causes things to freeze? I won't call garbage on that statement, Linkara, because I know you have a knack for discovering recent, crazy comic books, but I will say that I have -got- to see this. I can't wait.Tantum Ergo 2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05066362306890352470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-26198532228925067572013-11-26T13:36:44.480-06:002013-11-26T13:36:44.480-06:00By Stan Lee's mustache! sounds like a wonderfu...By Stan Lee's mustache! sounds like a wonderful new swear to proclaim.Xel Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15276802687366780877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-3276132123778042662013-11-26T10:35:42.064-06:002013-11-26T10:35:42.064-06:00@N:
Linkara ripped apart the majority of your ar...@N: <br /><br />Linkara ripped apart the majority of your arguments for the flimsy tripe that they were, but I just want to address this bit:<br /><br />"I'll concede that a certain amount of humor can be taken from mythology, although I would advise caution for religions that have active worshiper" <br /><br />After Jesus rose from the dead, he and the disciples went on a fishing trip to the Keys. While there, Jesus decided that he was going to walk on water once again. Peter tried to discourage him, but Jesus insisted. He stepped off the side of the boat, and sank like a stone. Peter dove in and pulled him back on the boat. <br /><br />"I don't understand," Jesus said. "It worked last time."<br /><br />"Yes, Lord, but last time you didn't have holes in your feet." <br /><br />OR:<br /><br />An Irish man went into Confession. "Father, I've committed adultery."<br /><br />The priest asked, "Was it Mrs. O'Leary?"<br /><br />"No Father."<br /><br />"Was it Mrs. O'Grady?"<br /><br />"No Father"<br /><br />"It must have been Mrs. Jones."<br /><br />"No, Father."<br /><br />The priest gives the man three Hail Marys as penance. On the way out, the man runs into a friend.<br /><br />"Did you get absolution?"<br /><br />"No, but I got three good leads." <br /><br />And so forth. By the by, I'm a practicing Catholic. :PMeganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019795333244522222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-1644303955679226762013-11-26T09:39:48.519-06:002013-11-26T09:39:48.519-06:00The writer of this comic should see someone about ...The writer of this comic should see someone about his addiction to exclamation points.<br /><br />It always amuses me when mythological beings are described as noble when they really, really weren't. Thor in particular enslaved some guy's kids just because the guy accidentally crippled Thor's magic goat. NOBLE!<br /><br />Can't wait for your Christmas episodes!Eileen Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15371137926079407799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-25062027727312976402013-11-26T09:01:29.995-06:002013-11-26T09:01:29.995-06:00Ah, so Thor wasn't always a god but someone wh...Ah, so Thor wasn't always a god but someone who transformed into a god. That's actually a pretty interesting take on the character but wouldn't Thor's own personality clash with the person that he's technically possessing? <br />With that in mind, did Marvel have that kind of origin for most of their god-themed heroes? Well this curious mind will have to search out that information.<br /><br />By the way, Mr. Lovhaug, are you ever planning on doing a secret origin review on a character who started out as a villain but the debuted as a hero later? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13881676830017749078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-16048564583109577412013-11-26T07:06:35.922-06:002013-11-26T07:06:35.922-06:00"Wow, grass and fighting type... seriously, L..."Wow, grass and fighting type... seriously, Linkara, what's with all of the water type hate? You often claim to be pro-equality, then you leave them out. Steel type I'll let pass since you're obviously an OGen1 trainer, and we weren't aware of certain types that already existed during that time."<br /><br />While I'm fairly certain you're joking about this, you are the second person to ask why I didn't mention water and that's because I wanted to keep the joke quick and simple and only mention two types, thus I picked grass and fighting at random.Lewis Lovhaughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06724769374732321363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-56590884053936987302013-11-26T07:03:27.200-06:002013-11-26T07:03:27.200-06:00"Being a goddess of sexuality does not imply ..."Being a goddess of sexuality does not imply that she has to be relegated to a goddess of male objectification, which is exactly what you do by referencing her as ala truck-stop bathroom solicitation.<br /><br />I'm not a sex-positive feminist. I'll grant you that. But neither am I a troll. I believe that it is more important to divorce our ideas of sexual objectification from humor and levity. Making these jokes reinforces to the audience that it is okay to interpret these solicitations as acceptable displays, or worse, to make light of individuals in dangerous circumstances."<br /><br />Well, this is where we have to agree to disagree since I AM a sex-positive feminist and feel that the problems in modern media are often a result of objectification and reduction to mere sexual object that sexual agency should still come into account and be reflected in the personal choice of a woman if she feels to express herself thusly.<br /><br />"Now, you may wish to contend that the joke was intended to reflect Freya's multifaceted persona and it's comparative incongruity to modern audiences. I'll concede that a certain amount of humor can be taken from mythology, although I would advise caution for religions that have active worshiper, such as Norse Paganism. But the crux of this joke then is still the juxtaposition of expectations. The audience expects the "good time" to be sexual gratification, when it is instead something else."<br /><br />No, you got the joke pretty well in terms of its incongruity of modern expectations, but then again I'm not sure how much of an active worshipping base Norse Paganism actually enjoys in relation to these deities, nor do I think that I am being particularly offensive in the idea that a Goddess of Sexuality would, well, engage in sex.<br /><br />"But the set up still reinforces the stereotype and you didn't need to present this in the manner of solicitous graffiti."<br /><br />And I disagree on that and that it is merely a play on words based on the deity in question.<br /><br />"I would last point out that you do not offer a defense for the book's charge that only a male-identified individual can ever be "worthy." Which, really, is the greater fight here, and I suspect the one that less high-minded feminists can support. I do understand that the thousand-year-project won't be complete over night. I would like to hear your case for NOT rebutting this claim."<br /><br />Because it was written in 1962 and "he" was still operating as the standard default for both genders. A weak defense, perhaps, but that's because I don't feel the need to fight a battle or get annoyed about the choice of language used in a comic from the 1960s that probably didn't even postulate the idea of anyone BUT a male possessing the power of Thor considering the transformation is into the male deity. It's a MODERN concept that equality should be exercised and, while people may feel free to correct me on this, I'm pretty sure that these days it now reads "Whosoever holds this hammer, if THEY be worthy."<br /><br />"And, before you call me troll again, I won't offer further rebut here unless invited to do so. I am a watcher (and an ad watcher), and a customer (because like you, I believe Anrcho-Capitalism to be the true equalizer.) I seek only to keep you honest to the truest principles you espouse."<br /><br />My reasons for calling you a troll are because the principles YOU have been espousing reflect a rather radical form of feminism that seems to want to nitpick every single little thing, as if every battle NEEDS to be fought over the tiniest of infractions or use of language when not intended to actually be a matter of a battle over gender issues. In essence, your past comments seem to care more about a single tree on fire when an entire forest is burning down.Lewis Lovhaughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06724769374732321363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-82094132327247494762013-11-26T04:46:40.766-06:002013-11-26T04:46:40.766-06:00Btw the battle between and the rock creatures has ...Btw the battle between and the rock creatures has been done in Planet Hulk with Thor and Beta Ray BillCollectorXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09670460325222381233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-106782661691094052013-11-26T02:27:29.512-06:002013-11-26T02:27:29.512-06:00I know the perfect term that should come before yo...I know the perfect term that should come before you name due to the fact you are a big fan of a certain 2o year kids show about teenagers with attitude, how about the Morphinominal Linkara?:)AmazedSatsumahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07872223965715348195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-43323433161896420662013-11-26T01:39:21.804-06:002013-11-26T01:39:21.804-06:00Wow, grass and fighting type... seriously, Linkara...Wow, grass and fighting type... seriously, Linkara, what's with all of the water type hate? You often claim to be pro-equality, then you leave them out. Steel type I'll let pass since you're obviously an OGen1 trainer, and we weren't aware of certain types that already existed during that time.<br /><br />Also, though Freya was a goddess of all of those things, and probably more, her core concept was a sort of (pardon the bastardization of the term) feminine virility, which translated to the strength, beauty, fertility, and sexuality - she was the sort of role model that all men would strive to find in their partner, and all women would strive to become - the death and war sort of things came as most victories were dedicated to her. What's odd, is she has a near identical spear counterpart in her brother Freyr, the male god of all of those things. Ancient Norse Mythology: the birthplace of Equal Opportunity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-87449640061581411022013-11-26T00:42:26.874-06:002013-11-26T00:42:26.874-06:00Oh and one more thing
The Epic LinkaraOh and one more thing<br /><br />The Epic LinkaraRowan LeFeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-18759311645116359312013-11-26T00:38:11.482-06:002013-11-26T00:38:11.482-06:00@ 5:33 – the Norse rune for the letter ‘T’ is a sh...@ 5:33 – the Norse rune for the letter ‘T’ is a shallow arrow pointing up and is the likely predecessor to our modern “T” since superhero comics were at that point in time primarily being written for kids it would follow that instead of the truer Norse symbol, which might confuse youngsters, they used the capital T in the name Thor instead. <br />Although if that is the case had they done any research at all the name thor would actually be spelled with only three characters. “thorn”, “Os”, and “nyd” so his symbol should be the thorn rune. Which by the way in Norse runes it is symbolic of the god Thor. <br /><br />@ 06:57 – Wait… Linkara… did you JUST realize that Thor is an alien? XD<br /><br />@ 07:56 – buahahahahaha. And pebbles gets thrown in a lake. (If you know the joke its not bad English!)<br /><br />@ 18:26 – O… M…G… perfect use of that clip. Thor is full of L.A.M.P.s<br /><br />@ 21:47 – You kinda have to be worthy of the stick is my interpretation. Because any schlubb can pick up the stick but it won’t become anything more than the stick (even by accident) unless you’re worthy of it. <br /><br />also, I don't have ad-blocker and have had the same issue as wrabbit. sometimes the commerical in the middle just doesn't come. <br />:(Rowan LeFeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-82995296901684386052013-11-26T00:32:00.923-06:002013-11-26T00:32:00.923-06:00Being a goddess of sexuality does not imply that s...Being a goddess of sexuality does not imply that she has to be relegated to a goddess of male objectification, which is exactly what you do by referencing her as ala truck-stop bathroom solicitation.<br /><br />I'm not a sex-positive feminist. I'll grant you that. But neither am I a troll. I believe that it is more important to divorce our ideas of sexual objectification from humor and levity. Making these jokes reinforces to the audience that it is okay to interpret these solicitations as acceptable displays, or worse, to make light of individuals in dangerous circumstances.<br /><br />Now, you may wish to contend that the joke was intended to reflect Freya's multifaceted persona and it's comparative incongruity to modern audiences. I'll concede that a certain amount of humor can be taken from mythology, although I would advise caution for religions that have active worshiper, such as Norse Paganism. But the crux of this joke then is still the juxtaposition of expectations. The audience expects the "good time" to be sexual gratification, when it is instead something else. But the set up still reinforces the stereotype and you didn't need to present this in the manner of solicitous graffiti.<br /><br />I would last point out that you do not offer a defense for the book's charge that only a male-identified individual can ever be "worthy." Which, really, is the greater fight here, and I suspect the one that less high-minded feminists can support. I do understand that the thousand-year-project won't be complete over night. I would like to hear your case for NOT rebutting this claim.<br /><br />And, before you call me troll again, I won't offer further rebut here unless invited to do so. I am a watcher (and an ad watcher), and a customer (because like you, I believe Anrcho-Capitalism to be the true equalizer.) I seek only to keep you honest to the truest principles you espouse.N.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-34753409459578062722013-11-25T23:18:17.531-06:002013-11-25T23:18:17.531-06:00Awww, no mention of the time Thor got turned into ...Awww, no mention of the time Thor got turned into a frog?<br /><br />How about: "The Not-Quite Canadian" Linkara?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-40386913550061106702013-11-25T23:04:11.190-06:002013-11-25T23:04:11.190-06:00"I am deeply concerned that you were unwillin..."I am deeply concerned that you were unwilling to address the use of gender specific language on the hammer. Implying that only a man could ever be worthy of being a hero. I was ready to let this go, I'm willing to let the occasional "universal he" slip because too few english-language writers use gender neutral pronouns until your stinger. "For A Good Time Call Freya?" Really?! That's just low and you didn't have to take a cheap shot that demeans the object of a real people's worship for your immature joke. Check your priv."<br /><br />Okay, I know you're just trolling, but you do realize that Freya is the Goddess of War, love, sexuality, beauty, gold, and death, right?<br /><br />Sooo yes, my joke is accurate.Lewis Lovhaughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06724769374732321363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-44429864523896575362013-11-25T22:47:35.745-06:002013-11-25T22:47:35.745-06:00I am deeply concerned that you were unwilling to a...I am deeply concerned that you were unwilling to address the use of gender specific language on the hammer. Implying that only a man could ever be worthy of being a hero. I was ready to let this go, I'm willing to let the occasional "universal he" slip because too few english-language writers use gender neutral pronouns until your stinger. "For A Good Time Call Freya?" Really?! That's just low and you didn't have to take a cheap shot that demeans the object of a real people's worship for your immature joke. Check your priv.N.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-25373793114420035652013-11-25T21:49:21.793-06:002013-11-25T21:49:21.793-06:00It's weird how the only classic origin which a...It's weird how the only classic origin which also features that title's main villain is X-Men. Maybe it's because they were created after most of the other characters and Lee and Kirby had enough time to figure out how to create a dynamic villain on the first try. doug.glassmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18018711097234509826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-7923059257031535932013-11-25T21:17:01.877-06:002013-11-25T21:17:01.877-06:00Interesting review--as you said, I'm only real...Interesting review--as you said, I'm only really familiar with the MCU Thor (and to an extent his Ultimate version), so the Donald Blake stuff was something new. Looking things up, turns out he really was Thor all along, just in some new body Odin made for him. By comic standards, not that weird I guess. <br /><br />Chuckled a bit at the writing on Thor's Hammer. Almost looked like it had 'Acme' written on it. <br /><br />I also second you could do groups for next years' Secret Origins--I think you already did X-Men, correct me if I'm wrong? Otherwise, villains are also a good idea. <br /><br />Looking forward to your Christmas episodes (Christmas already, god, how time flies these days...)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-10322036237557863632013-11-25T21:00:32.406-06:002013-11-25T21:00:32.406-06:00kudos for mentioning Thor's smackdown of Tony ...kudos for mentioning Thor's smackdown of Tony Stark. It is one of my favourite moments from Straczynski's run. Completely justified and awesome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com