tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post397687544993199847..comments2023-09-05T09:06:09.136-05:00Comments on Atop the Fourth Wall: The New Guardians #2Lewis Lovhaughttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06724769374732321363noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-74188842291071728822010-01-08T08:14:25.905-06:002010-01-08T08:14:25.905-06:00Columbia? Where's that? Surely it's no whe...Columbia? Where's that? Surely it's no where near Colombia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-28969057399091003422009-05-26T20:36:49.099-05:002009-05-26T20:36:49.099-05:00Snowflame is the greatest villian EVER.Snowflame is the greatest villian EVER.Matt Willardhttp://www.giantrobotinvasion.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-29089277914740329062009-03-30T14:12:00.000-05:002009-03-30T14:12:00.000-05:00This comic is...gah! I just...I can't...How can I ...This comic is...gah! I just...I can't...How can I put this as delicately as possible? ...Ah, screw it: I am insulted by the entire basis of this comic series, and I'm a member of the furry fandom, one of the most sexually-hyped subcultures on the entire planet. An entire superhero team chosen by "higher beings" to protect the world through promiscuity? It sounds like something a group of Rule 34 worshipers would find awesome, but...it's stupid. It's utterly, utterly stupid.<BR/><BR/>Really good review here, Linkara, as always, but I think you missed a good opportunity to rip apart the very basis of the team itself. If you will, allow me to put in my two cents:<BR/><BR/>First of all, and not to invoke Godwin's Law here, or anything, but think about the concept: a group of superheroes, chosen by "higher beings", who are charged with saving the world by, apparently, breeding in a new race of superbeings. Um...Übermensch, much? Yes, selective breeding and Apocalypse-from-X-Men-like "Survival of the Fittest" mentalities. <I>That's</I> what the world needs, right? Oh, but it's alright, because the team is full of diverse racial stereotypes, right? No offensiveness here, intentional or otherwise, nosiree.<BR/><BR/>Second, <I>why have a gay man in a team whose job is to mate and breed the superior man?!</I> Again, not to open a can of worms here (what with the whole "Is homosexuality bad" argument), but it's simple logic: if your job is to breed with other people to ensure good genetic stock, <I>you do not add in a gay person to your team</I>. <I>Maybe</I> you can get away with gay <I>females</I>, because they can still give birth, and artificial insemination was available even during the time of the comic, but a gay <I>man</I>? No, just no.<BR/><BR/>Finally, ignoring all of the obvious misinformation they give about the transmission and progression of AIDS, <I>why make a comic a bout a team of superheroes ensuring the safety of the world through rampant breeding if you're going to introduce a plot point that renders it moot in the second issue?!</I> What were they thinking?! AIDS? Seriously? You're going to invalidate your entire series' premise by giving your characters <I>AIDS?!</I> You're not going to start out slow, like a Friends of Humanity-like group of decency activists created to oppose the team, or maybe a mad BDSM fetishist with mind control powers that wants to take control of the team and their mission in order to turn the world into his own personal brothel? You're <I>really</I> going to start off by giving them <I><B>AIDS?!</B></I><BR/><BR/>Speaking of which, other than the stereotype of hippies being into both (which I'm surprised this comic didn't take advantage of, what with the <I>other</I> offensive stereotypes they've injected into it, already), what correlation does drugs and sex have with each other? Seriously, do they even explain why the New Guardians are fighting against Snow-Flame? From what I read of your review, there doesn't seem to be one, other than to pit a bunch of horny idiots against a cocaine-snorting moron.<BR/><BR/>I have seen sexually-based superheroes, in my time. They are silly, they are narmish in their depiction...and they are <I>still</I> better than this dreg. I have to agree with what you said in your Sinnamon review in regards to this comic: if they wanted to make a freaking porno comic, they should've made a freaking porno comic.SynjoDeonecroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08797975991138870677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-811457356605478402009-02-06T11:20:00.000-06:002009-02-06T11:20:00.000-06:00sorry to post in an old blog, but I had to just sa...sorry to post in an old blog, but I had to just say that, it seems like every time there's a gay character in comics, it's made a point to give him AIDS or make him flamboyant or some ridiculous stereotype.artimushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14832122524387140559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-59469068740134294412008-09-19T12:09:00.000-05:002008-09-19T12:09:00.000-05:00Well, she seems to keep finding excuses to do it. ...Well, she seems to keep finding excuses to do it. XDLewis Lovhaughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06724769374732321363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-2405062196785258962008-09-19T05:04:00.000-05:002008-09-19T05:04:00.000-05:00Good lord, has Harbinger even shown up and not flo...Good lord, has Harbinger even shown up and <I>not</I> flown off in a moany tantrum by the end of the scene?! I swear she did that about three times during Millenium...<BR/><BR/><BR/>~GQAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-16517096835801539152008-07-09T23:20:00.000-05:002008-07-09T23:20:00.000-05:00One must wonder, then, why if she is so against En...One must wonder, then, why if she is so against England at the time that the descriptors for her always list her as British instead of Jamaica.Lewis Lovhaughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06724769374732321363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-27909515356162779902008-07-09T21:03:00.000-05:002008-07-09T21:03:00.000-05:00Timmay is correct. Jet is a Jamaican immigrant to...Timmay is correct. Jet is a Jamaican immigrant to England, or as it was actually described in "Millenium", "Fascist Britain." (Thatcher was really losing popularity at that point.)<BR/><BR/>The Kreuz guy mentioned as being in South Africa is the actual leader of that country (this is still back in apartheid days, remember) a thinly renamed version of a real person. I remember realizing while reading Millenium that the poor guy had been set up deliberately by the Guardians of Oa and Zamarons to make a heel turn and become the big bad for the New Guardians. He did get a good line early on though, telling Wonder Woman "I am thoroughly sick of outsiders telling us how to run our country."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-71084970238931654392008-06-20T22:36:00.000-05:002008-06-20T22:36:00.000-05:00The Dragon lines thing is actually from Chinese ph...The Dragon lines thing is actually from Chinese philosophy. It's the whole thing behind Geo-mancy and balancing Chi though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-89501343700484469852008-06-13T02:02:00.000-05:002008-06-13T02:02:00.000-05:00"the team was a pastiche of new foreign characters..."the team was a pastiche of new foreign characters that were basically stereotypes right from the get-go"<BR/><BR/>Sounds like the X-Men. The new team, not the original five.<BR/><BR/>"“I am Snow-Flame! Every cell of my being burns with white-hot ecstasy. Cocaine is my God-- and I am the human instrument of its will!”"<BR/><BR/>Why oh why are there no pictures?<BR/><BR/>"Can anyone explain to me why the highly flammable chemical shed was owned by the guy whose powers apparently involved bursting into flames, and furthermore why you’d put it next to the pool?"<BR/><BR/>Well, once you establish why a dude who does all this cocaine does anything that makes sense . . . ;)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11283044880351616335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-25176540487515591662008-06-01T12:04:00.000-05:002008-06-01T12:04:00.000-05:00Hilarious post as always. Apparently to this day ...Hilarious post as always. Apparently to this day Steve Englehart is bitter about how this book turned out, claiming that DC's editorial staff got cold feat in letting him talk about real issues like sex, AIDs and drug use.<BR/><BR/>Yet judging by these first two issues I'm not sure if Steve Englehart really knew what he was writing about.<BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work.Paul S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13522335321552647450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-10826055007587619472008-05-14T14:05:00.000-05:002008-05-14T14:05:00.000-05:00Hooray! It always makes my day to see you eviscera...Hooray! It always makes my day to see you eviscerate another crap comic.<BR/><BR/>Boy, Englehart really dropped the ball on this one, didn't he? It's strangely comforting to know that a guy so talented is capable of coming up with stinkers like this.DJ Paycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00069375512063602641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-42808053495588599792008-05-13T20:59:00.000-05:002008-05-13T20:59:00.000-05:00Heh, I totally forgot the timeline angle of the AI...Heh, I totally forgot the timeline angle of the AIDS thing! They could theoretically stretch out the "do they have it, do they not?" thing out for five years before it fit in with normal comic time. ^_~<BR/><BR/>This election season I'm voting for Snow-Flame.Lewis Lovhaughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06724769374732321363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-66978032810243579942008-05-13T10:02:00.000-05:002008-05-13T10:02:00.000-05:00It's great to see you reviewing again. I official...It's great to see you reviewing again. I officially love Snow-Flame; every time he appears, this turns into the Hobgoblins of comics, where it's skin-peelingly awful but in a strangely entertaining way.<BR/><BR/>This illustrates nicely why comics have a hard time with relevence. There's no way to adequately portray an illness like AIDS, since it would mean acknowledging the passage of time and actually having to do some research. And it also shows why 'stereotypes = diversity' is so awful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5809126056034906096.post-13684668558663476172008-05-11T12:07:00.000-05:002008-05-11T12:07:00.000-05:00There's a large Jamaican community in England, so ...There's a large Jamaican community in England, so Jet could easily have that accent and still be from England.Timmayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03611663732025332067noreply@blogger.com