yeah... Final Crisis kinda left me that way too. Maybe if they had more issues to flush out the story, it wouldn't have been such a meandering of plot points that never come to clear conclusions...but i seriously doubt that somehow
Why did DC work so hard to undo Crises on infinite Earths? I mean, Barry Allen came back, the monitor kinda came back, The anti-monitor came back (Though "The Blackest Night" seems to have ended his return.) Alex, Superboy-Prime, Kal-L, and Earth-2 Lois Lane came back (all but Superboy-Prime temporarily), and even the multiverse came back! I personally liked Crises on Infinite Earths and I got the reasoning for trying to simplify the DC universe, so why'd they have to undo everything? At least they could have let the monitor and the anti-monitor stay dead.
I personally didn't care enough to read past the first issues of Watchmen and Sandman because they don't peak my interest. Sure, they're well written and have a place in comics history, but they do nothing for me.
Bone is one of the few comics on "best of" lists that actually kept me reading through the whole story.
Great vids as always! But after suffering through Amazons Attack over the course of almost a month, I'm shocked you had enough gusto for five more panels of it!
Dude, you know that 52 CI5P you did? You need to re-release it and make it 6! "I'm Linkara! I am a man! And I am awesome!"
So until your Supervillan Mathematics 101 course teaches us the square root of the Anti-life equation, MAKE MINE LINKARA!
I personally liked Crises on Infinite Earths and I got the reasoning for trying to simplify the DC universe, so why'd they have to undo everything?
Well to be fair, they haven't undone everything. The real purpose behind The Crisis on Infinite Earths was to straighten out the HUGE continuity mess that DC had let build up over the years. So undoing some of the individual events of the first Crisis doesn't undo CoIE per se because they don't technically bring back all those continuity issues (at least I don't think they do; haven't had a chance to read it in full just yet).
For example, Barry Allen's death wasn't really a continuity-cleanup so much as an attempt to pass the torch to Wally West. So although it does arguably negate the heroic sacrifice he made in the first Crisis, Barry being un-killed doesn't technically "undo" CoIE.
I just feel that Crises on Infinite Earths' impact has been lessened by undoing some of the events.
Yeah, it does kind of feel like a betrayal of the original story. And honestly, I don't know why they felt they had to bring Barry Allen back. It's not like there were huge groups of fans campaigning for him to be brought back; Barry Allen's death is most often cited as an example of the RIGHT way to handle the death of a superhero. I'm not necessarily opposed to it (if Parallax and the Sinestro Corps War taught us anything it's that really great stories can be created out of even the worst decisions), but I'd still like to know why.
I have to come back and ask for forgiveness, because I cited The Invisibles as a weird Morrison comic. The invisibles made sense, his run on Doom patrol made sens...but the man wrote a book called the New adventures of Hitler. The name alone shouts weirdness.
I agree with you than Final Crisis was handled horribly when they were releasing the individual issues, but when read in the collected edition it makes much more sense... continuity-wise.
I'll admit, I picked up an issue of FC #1 in a store to look through it and it was like greek salad to me. The pacing was indeed done badly as well.
But now that I've read FC (and Batman RIP) a few times, I've grown to like them more. And that's because I start to gradually get the subtleties and themes that are in them.
The term "Crisis" means that an event that is pivotal to the DC Universe, events that, yes, do indeed draw heavily on the past history of the universe/multiverse and, yes, you do need to know that history to fully appreciate it.
I bought the collected edition, as well as the Companion book (which does indeed explain where the hell Libra came from) and reading 52 and Morrison's Seven Soldiers series made FC much more legible (52 and SS are pretty much the real lead up to FC).
I hope that you'll make an article or a video in the future for FC, after you read it a few times.
Also, shawl? That actually made me laugh when I heard it!
Lol!
ReplyDelete...and I could use a shawl.
Well, Morrison writes weird stuff. Just look at The Invisibles.
ReplyDeleteyeah... Final Crisis kinda left me that way too. Maybe if they had more issues to flush out the story, it wouldn't have been such a meandering of plot points that never come to clear conclusions...but i seriously doubt that somehow
ReplyDeleteWhy did DC work so hard to undo Crises on infinite Earths? I mean, Barry Allen came back, the monitor kinda came back, The anti-monitor came back (Though "The Blackest Night" seems to have ended his return.) Alex, Superboy-Prime, Kal-L, and Earth-2 Lois Lane came back (all but Superboy-Prime temporarily), and even the multiverse came back! I personally liked Crises on Infinite Earths and I got the reasoning for trying to simplify the DC universe, so why'd they have to undo everything? At least they could have let the monitor and the anti-monitor stay dead.
ReplyDeleteGreat stuff. Wonderfuloly done.
ReplyDeleteEver read Bone? I wonder how you'd put it as part of this series if you did.
ReplyDeleteI haven't but I hear it's good.
ReplyDeleteDepends on what you're into.
ReplyDeleteI personally didn't care enough to read past the first issues of Watchmen and Sandman because they don't peak my interest. Sure, they're well written and have a place in comics history, but they do nothing for me.
Bone is one of the few comics on "best of" lists that actually kept me reading through the whole story.
Plus, I love the art.
No no no! You should also have said:
ReplyDelete"Oh, and I can also breathe in space too."
Bah!
I still love All-Star Superman and his Arkham Asylum thing though.
ReplyDeleteGreat vids as always! But after suffering through Amazons Attack over the course of almost a month, I'm shocked you had enough gusto for five more panels of it!
ReplyDeleteDude, you know that 52 CI5P you did? You need to re-release it and make it 6! "I'm Linkara! I am a man! And I am awesome!"
So until your Supervillan Mathematics 101 course teaches us the square root of the Anti-life equation, MAKE MINE LINKARA!
I thought the Filth was even weirder. I never got the Commie-Russian-chimp. We3 made sense.
ReplyDeleteAwesome! I would love to see you go through Final Crisis like you did Amazons Attack. Great stuff Linkara!
ReplyDeleteNo "Bees. My god"?
ReplyDeleteI'm disappointed.
Grant Morrison: "I'm a bloody genius!"
ReplyDelete"Grant Morrison: "I'm a bloody genius!""
ReplyDeleteAlan Moore: "No you're not!"
=D
I don't know if you read any webcomics, but this one is doing an extended parody of recent comic book crossovers.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.leasticoulddo.com/comic/20090326
I personally liked Crises on Infinite Earths and I got the reasoning for trying to simplify the DC universe, so why'd they have to undo everything?
ReplyDeleteWell to be fair, they haven't undone everything. The real purpose behind The Crisis on Infinite Earths was to straighten out the HUGE continuity mess that DC had let build up over the years. So undoing some of the individual events of the first Crisis doesn't undo CoIE per se because they don't technically bring back all those continuity issues (at least I don't think they do; haven't had a chance to read it in full just yet).
For example, Barry Allen's death wasn't really a continuity-cleanup so much as an attempt to pass the torch to Wally West. So although it does arguably negate the heroic sacrifice he made in the first Crisis, Barry being un-killed doesn't technically "undo" CoIE.
I see your point mightysamurai. I just feel that Crises on Infinite Earths' impact has been lessened by undoing some of the events.
ReplyDeleteI just feel that Crises on Infinite Earths' impact has been lessened by undoing some of the events.
ReplyDeleteYeah, it does kind of feel like a betrayal of the original story. And honestly, I don't know why they felt they had to bring Barry Allen back. It's not like there were huge groups of fans campaigning for him to be brought back; Barry Allen's death is most often cited as an example of the RIGHT way to handle the death of a superhero. I'm not necessarily opposed to it (if Parallax and the Sinestro Corps War taught us anything it's that really great stories can be created out of even the worst decisions), but I'd still like to know why.
Shame you don't read Bone. It is a great series. I have only read up to the third volume though. I want to find the later volumes.
ReplyDeleteI have to come back and ask for forgiveness, because I cited The Invisibles as a weird Morrison comic. The invisibles made sense, his run on Doom patrol made sens...but the man wrote a book called the New adventures of Hitler. The name alone shouts weirdness.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you than Final Crisis was handled horribly when they were releasing the individual issues, but when read in the collected edition it makes much more sense... continuity-wise.
ReplyDeleteI'll admit, I picked up an issue of FC #1 in a store to look through it and it was like greek salad to me. The pacing was indeed done badly as well.
But now that I've read FC (and Batman RIP) a few times, I've grown to like them more. And that's because I start to gradually get the subtleties and themes that are in them.
The term "Crisis" means that an event that is pivotal to the DC Universe, events that, yes, do indeed draw heavily on the past history of the universe/multiverse and, yes, you do need to know that history to fully appreciate it.
I bought the collected edition, as well as the Companion book (which does indeed explain where the hell Libra came from) and reading 52 and Morrison's Seven Soldiers series made FC much more legible (52 and SS are pretty much the real lead up to FC).
I hope that you'll make an article or a video in the future for FC, after you read it a few times.
Also, shawl? That actually made me laugh when I heard it!